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they make ryan boots. partnered with matthew williamson for a special anniversary collection. >> okay. >> 125 at haviana.com. >> tell us about these shrugs. >> these are from fc.com. a global marketplace from all over the place. these shrugs are from all over the world. >> body jewelry. >> very exotic. new port beach, something from faraway places. >> tribal-inspired jewelry. looks exotic. >> very exotic. made right here in new york city. made by a company called holst & lei, beautiful statement pieces, inspired by executive places an exotic people. >> and last but not least, the custom made jewelry. >> this is haji couture, leather and jowls and beautiful feathers of all of the pieces are made to order, all custom and totally affordable. >> and nice and furry, too. >> thanks so much. >> natalie. >> thank you, savannah. moving on to what's up, exotic beauty. lindsey huggins is editor at "self" magazine. what are the latest trends in exotic beaute? >> good morning. so many things you can put in your makeup
they make ryan boots. partnered with matthew williamson for a special anniversary collection. >> okay. >> 125 at haviana.com. >> tell us about these shrugs. >> these are from fc.com. a global marketplace from all over the place. these shrugs are from all over the world. >> body jewelry. >> very exotic. new port beach, something from faraway places. >> tribal-inspired jewelry. looks exotic. >> very exotic. made right here in new york city. made by...
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. ,,,,,, ,, ryan: it is mathematically po re. it >>> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not matt cloudy possible. >> it is mathematically possible. >> it has been done before. it's precisely what we're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple of times. jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> first of all, i was there -- >> just one of several jab exchanges during last night's spirited vice-presidential debate. two men also sparred over judicial appointments, abortion, taxes, and unemployment. the polls split on who won that debate. cbs news showed vice president biden won about 50% to congressman ryan's 31%. here in california, the margins a little narrower. >>> both joe biden and paul ryan got right back on the campaign trail hoping to build on any post debate momentum. cbs reporter danielle nottingham shows us how both sides are claiming victory. >> reporter: vice presiden
. ,,,,,, ,, ryan: it is mathematically po re. it >>> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not matt cloudy possible. >> it is mathematically possible. >> it has been done before. it's precisely what we're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple of times. jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. [ laughter ]...
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one showed ryan 48% to 44% ahead. cbs news' flash poll gave biden the win with 50% compared to 31% for ryan and 19% called the debate a tie. for a look at some of the highlights, we go to steve handelsman at the debate sight in danville, kentucky. good morning. >> reporter: good morning from danville, kentucky where they differ sharply on practically all the big issues. these are smart, well informed politicians. paul rye yand and joe biden had reason to feel good last night. a long time democratic insider versus a republican young gun whose ticket has new momentum. mitt romney was watching, barack obama, too. the moderator from abc. they tangled on iran. >> they are closer to a nuclear weapon. >> we will not allow the iranians to get a nuclear weapon. you gonna go to war? is that what you want to do now? >> we want to prevent war. >> what about 47% of americans feeling entitled to benefits. >> i think the vice president knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i m
one showed ryan 48% to 44% ahead. cbs news' flash poll gave biden the win with 50% compared to 31% for ryan and 19% called the debate a tie. for a look at some of the highlights, we go to steve handelsman at the debate sight in danville, kentucky. good morning. >> reporter: good morning from danville, kentucky where they differ sharply on practically all the big issues. these are smart, well informed politicians. paul rye yand and joe biden had reason to feel good last night. a long time...
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ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. of it's time romney and ryan say we're going to level the playing field. we're going to give you a fair shot again. >> paul ryan has been saying he wanted a big debate. well, last night he got one and today their whole dishonest campaign is sorry he did. joining me now, dana milbank for "the washington post" and marge. >> nowhere more than when biden nailed him on the gop's attack on the stimulus. watch. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters but go to our website. h
ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the...
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paul ryan laid out what the romney/ryan agenda would be for the future. you didn't hear anything new at all from vice president biden about what the obama administration's going to do to get down unemployment, to spark growth. all the things they've been failing at. they have laid out no vision at all to address that. >> his point was that vice president joe biden was inappropriate and insubstantial. what was your take? >> i thought he was passionate. i thought he was personal and i thought he was very substantial. i thought he really won the debate. i think that he was willing to be specific in a way paul ryan wasn't. i think paul ryan did not have an answer to the question of what's your $5 trillion tax plan, what exactly what benefits are you going to cut? what exactly are you going to do? i don't think he had an answer on afghanistan. the only thing paul ryan had a specific answer on he and romney are willing to take away a woman's right to choose. >> if you look at what happened afterwards and hearing the talking heads this morning, democrats thought
paul ryan laid out what the romney/ryan agenda would be for the future. you didn't hear anything new at all from vice president biden about what the obama administration's going to do to get down unemployment, to spark growth. all the things they've been failing at. they have laid out no vision at all to address that. >> his point was that vice president joe biden was inappropriate and insubstantial. what was your take? >> i thought he was passionate. i thought he was personal and i...
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when you look at the fact that ryan and akin are two of a kind, paul ryan, the vice presidential candidate chosen by mitt romney and todd akin co-sponsored a bill called, the no taxpayer funded abortion toll tha would limit what would be considered rape, that funds could only be used for forceable rape, which has been the controversy around akin. >> right. and paul ryan co-sponsored it. >> co-sponsored it. >> co-sponsored it. not just supported it. and this is what is so incredible, that now the anti-choice people are so -- they smell victory and they are letting romney get away with this flip-flopping. so instead of calling him on the carpet and saying, what do you mean? we all know what he meant because we know he's going to be a pro life president. >> they think that he's going to win. once he's in, i think that they think they can have a claim on him. that is historically where they've gotten their absolute victories. >> scary. joan walsh and irin carmon, thank you for your time tonight. >>> coming up, no more mr. nice guy. president obama is getting revved up for the next debate and s
when you look at the fact that ryan and akin are two of a kind, paul ryan, the vice presidential candidate chosen by mitt romney and todd akin co-sponsored a bill called, the no taxpayer funded abortion toll tha would limit what would be considered rape, that funds could only be used for forceable rape, which has been the controversy around akin. >> right. and paul ryan co-sponsored it. >> co-sponsored it. >> co-sponsored it. not just supported it. and this is what is so...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were settled last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake...
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>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under three. >> holy smoke. >> i stand by what i said, whatever it was. >>> we are pumped up, fired up, and jacked up with just hours until tonight's first and only face-off between vice president joseph biden and vice presidential nominee paul ryan. and what was once regarded as a popcorn side show has taken on far greater significance in the wake of the president's less than scintillating performance last week. democrats are anxious, republicans are hungry for a surge, and as ryan and biden take the stage tonight, they have a chance to influence this election at a volatile moment. and the president himself knows he's got to push harder against his ever-shiftin
>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under...
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where does paul ryan stand on his own budget that was passed twice? think about paul ryan. he has to go to the plate tonight and take a swing at trying to knock it out of the park when the plan that he put forward for america does not poll in the majority. he has to make the case to the american people tonight that his plan is best for america where it doesn't poll anywhere pol positively. so i think the vice president has to make sure that they don't miss opportunities. >> does he bring the heat on every issue, does he bring the heat on the 47%. >> don't be ofafraid to say 31 months of private jobs growth is great for america considering where we were and these folks want it take us back to deregulation, giving more tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. this is right in the wheel house of joe bbiden. the fact that they're down playing the fact of how much debate experience paul ryan has is just window dressing. i've seen joe biden so many times on the stump in person, he stands up, he gets riled up. this will be a little bit more controlled and i think a lot more centere
where does paul ryan stand on his own budget that was passed twice? think about paul ryan. he has to go to the plate tonight and take a swing at trying to knock it out of the park when the plan that he put forward for america does not poll in the majority. he has to make the case to the american people tonight that his plan is best for america where it doesn't poll anywhere pol positively. so i think the vice president has to make sure that they don't miss opportunities. >> does he bring...
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ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something like 23 million americans. in fact, mr. ryan's economic plan was deemed to be so callous that when he spoke at georgetown university, 90 members of the faculty sent him a letter saying that his budget was a complete bastardization of catholic social teaching. as father thomas reese said, i am afraid that chairman ryan's budget reflects the values of his favorite philosopher ayn rand rather than the gospel of jesus christ. mr. ryan says his opponents are liars who want to
ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something like 23 million americans. in fact, mr....
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. >>> is paul ryan starting to feel the heed? just two days before his do-or-die showdown with joe biden. check this out. >> by kiting taxes, with the big tax cut? >> those are yours, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. >> yeah take off that microphone. good luck trying that with joe biden on thursday. >>> plus big bird is still flying high and there are signs now that the great yellow friend is getting under mitt romney's skin. >>> and the inside story of the family intervention inside the romney campaign. it's a real shocker, and it really happened. you're watches "politics nation" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ ryan ] it doesn't get any better than endless shrimp at red lobster. you can mix and match all day! [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobst
. >>> is paul ryan starting to feel the heed? just two days before his do-or-die showdown with joe biden. check this out. >> by kiting taxes, with the big tax cut? >> those are yours, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. >> yeah take off that microphone. good luck trying that with joe biden on thursday. >>> plus big bird is still flying high and there are signs now that the great yellow friend is getting under mitt...
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take one very good example where he skewer ryan on the question of the stimulus where ryan as a congressional representative from gainesville had twice asked for money from the constituencies. that kind of story has gotten buried in all of the talk about the theatrics. so the democrats are cheering biden, but he made a mistake by giving his opponent a chance to focus on the theatrics. >> is there so much media attention on his smiling and smurking aside in part because prot did so poorly in that first debate. >> yes. and of the particular way that president did badly. if you follow the theory, this is a visual contest, that what biden did to ryan, maybe he didn't make sense, maybe he told some lies but what he did do is go on the stage and prove he was the king gorilla, dumped on the other guy and threw him around. in the previous debate, romney had been the king gorilla and since we're more concerned about kimg and vice king, the fact that he failed to hold his own i think is a very concerning thing to democrats because it doesn't just go to the president's, you know, was he asleep, was he t
take one very good example where he skewer ryan on the question of the stimulus where ryan as a congressional representative from gainesville had twice asked for money from the constituencies. that kind of story has gotten buried in all of the talk about the theatrics. so the democrats are cheering biden, but he made a mistake by giving his opponent a chance to focus on the theatrics. >> is there so much media attention on his smiling and smurking aside in part because prot did so poorly...
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paul ryan is in florida after studying after four days in a woodsy virginia camp. vice president biden is at home in delaware focusing on ryan's speeches and his budget. >>> national hospital is reporting yet another death from the meningitis outbreak. if confirmed, it would be the fifth deadly case in tennessee. that is the ninth nationally. at least 105 people in nine states from minnesota to florida have been affected. the cdc now believes 13,000 people in 23 states may have received the steroid injection that's are tied to the outbreak. and while many are believed not to be at risk, those who got the shot between late june and september are being urged to get checked. erry sandusky ry first time, aheaof the sentencing this morning on 45 counts of child sexual assault. the former penn state assistant football coach was convicted in june of molesting ten boys over 15 years. prosecutors say about half a dozen of his victims will take the witness stand and sandusky himself is expected to testify at the hearing to defiantly say he is innocent. he gave a preview of w
paul ryan is in florida after studying after four days in a woodsy virginia camp. vice president biden is at home in delaware focusing on ryan's speeches and his budget. >>> national hospital is reporting yet another death from the meningitis outbreak. if confirmed, it would be the fifth deadly case in tennessee. that is the ninth nationally. at least 105 people in nine states from minnesota to florida have been affected. the cdc now believes 13,000 people in 23 states may have...
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that's what paul ryan said? so in other words if somebody comes into his office and says, hey, i need $20 million for this project, it's just a quick stamp of approval? ryan's part of the problem in washington, and he's trying to blame the democrats for it. at certain points the vice president was openly fact checking paul ryan's comments in realtime. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from oregon. >> he says he does no longer support -- >> we put it together with the former clinton budget director. >> who disavows it. >> this idea came from the clinton commission to save medicare chaired by senator john breaux. here's the point, martha. >> which was rejected. >> if we don't -- >> that was a crucial point in the debate right there. here's a guy trying to talk about a plan that has bipartisan support, and joe biden stood up for
that's what paul ryan said? so in other words if somebody comes into his office and says, hey, i need $20 million for this project, it's just a quick stamp of approval? ryan's part of the problem in washington, and he's trying to blame the democrats for it. at certain points the vice president was openly fact checking paul ryan's comments in realtime. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one...
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that's compared to 44% who favor ryan. when it comes to predicting the winner of tonight's debate, 40% of registered voters say ryan will come out on top. 34% think biden will prevail. nbc's tracie potts has a preview of tonight's debate. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the pressure is on vice president biden to try to turn things around after the presidential debate last week. he has the experience on the debate stage to do so. but as you saw in the numbers, it looks like the public is betting more on paul ryan. ryan took a bit of an exertion yesterday while he was practicing in florida saying that the vice president will probably come at me like a cannonball. but that the obama record, as ryan put it, is his achilles heel. ryan is in kentucky after debate preps in florida and virginia. he's done three mock debates. meantime, the vice president has been in delaware focusing on ryan's book, on his speeches, on his budget. he says he wants to give ryan no chance to say this was not our position. the white house rel
that's compared to 44% who favor ryan. when it comes to predicting the winner of tonight's debate, 40% of registered voters say ryan will come out on top. 34% think biden will prevail. nbc's tracie potts has a preview of tonight's debate. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the pressure is on vice president biden to try to turn things around after the presidential debate last week. he has the experience on the debate stage to do so. but as you saw in the numbers, it looks like the...
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how much pressure faces paul ryan. and this morning, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky finds out if he'll spend the rest of his life in prison on 45 counts of child sex abuse, he already put out a taped statement denying it all. we'll have the latest from the courthouse as soon as it happens. it is happening within minutes there in pennsylvania. >>> good morning from washington, it's four weeks until election day, tuesday, october 10. will romney serve in national polling translate into gains where it really matters t battleground states, the mimpb battleground states of iowa, wisconsin and ohio. romney will not be president unless he can put these states in play. in a new pew poll conducted since wednesday. just last month in the same poll, romney trailed by eight points. driving romney surge, a spike in republican enthusiasm, more republicans made it through pew's likely voter screen than democrats. and a larger group of registered voters, the candidates are tied at 46. while it's unlikely returns on el
how much pressure faces paul ryan. and this morning, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky finds out if he'll spend the rest of his life in prison on 45 counts of child sex abuse, he already put out a taped statement denying it all. we'll have the latest from the courthouse as soon as it happens. it is happening within minutes there in pennsylvania. >>> good morning from washington, it's four weeks until election day, tuesday, october 10. will romney serve in national polling...
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ryan has tweaked the plan. his latest plan is a lot more generous in terms of subsidy and how they grow over time. the $6,400 is no longer relevant. that's something the congressional office did find in the analysis of the older plan that seniors would end up paying $6,400 or more. it was an decade or more into the future. but, again, he has now change thad plan. it's a lot more generous. cbo hasn't had enough detail. hasn't been able to do enough analyst on the new plan. >> we could spend 30 minutes on this easily on each debate. >> easily. >> i want to thank both of you for coming on and attempting to cyst throu sift through some of. this lori robertson and edward-isaac dovere. >>> coming up, you might not know -- you might not know his views on evolution or rather creationism, and he's not alone. he's not at all alone in the halls of congress. >> here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we forgo about 1 preside$1.4 tr >> we're going to hear from team romney next. then a little bit later, how your choice of
ryan has tweaked the plan. his latest plan is a lot more generous in terms of subsidy and how they grow over time. the $6,400 is no longer relevant. that's something the congressional office did find in the analysis of the older plan that seniors would end up paying $6,400 or more. it was an decade or more into the future. but, again, he has now change thad plan. it's a lot more generous. cbo hasn't had enough detail. hasn't been able to do enough analyst on the new plan. >> we could...
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, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to figure out how he can talk about what he believes and not run afoul of wherever governor romney might be on any of these budgetary issues, and especially medicare. >> it could be very interesting and very important given where we are at this stage, 29 days out. jonathan and margie omera, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> a new group intimidating voters at the poll. into plus, the folks at snl brought humor but there's a serious point to be made. that's ahead. [ female announcer ] you can measure the growth of children by the
, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to...
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ryan? i would challenge him on these very fundamental positions he's taking. >> maybe you should xerox that and slip it to one of biden's guys. >> both sides can see it. both sides can see it. >> in the meantime, the polls, we had a little graphic up that showed pole ryization. because so many people have made up their minds, do you bank on this debate tonight being any kind of a change in the game? >> i doubt it's going to be a change. we've seen very few vice presidential debates where they've mattered. democrats want a little bit of momentum. these polls have shown that last week's debate didn't matter all that much but going into this final stretch with 26 days left they actually want something to believe in their side, to take the fight to the republicans. i think that's what they're going to be looking for. the republicans want to keep their momentum. >> i think the draw goes to the other side, the republicans. >> i do too. >> without a win. >> has to be decisive. >> the team loses. >
ryan? i would challenge him on these very fundamental positions he's taking. >> maybe you should xerox that and slip it to one of biden's guys. >> both sides can see it. both sides can see it. >> in the meantime, the polls, we had a little graphic up that showed pole ryization. because so many people have made up their minds, do you bank on this debate tonight being any kind of a change in the game? >> i doubt it's going to be a change. we've seen very few vice...
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/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan -- it's going to be much harder for him to do that. he wrote the ryan plan. >> right. >> he can't run away from the plan that bears his name, the plan that bears his name that would voucherize medicare. so i think the key is for joe biden to take the modern republican party, particularly the modern republican house caucus and hang it around the neck of paul ryan. >> well, ryan wrote the budget, as you said, and ryan is named after -- and he is the one that made some of these votes. kind of hard to run away from it. krystal, when you look at his record, it seems right for pickings. his budget raises taxes on the poor. it makes seniors pay $6400 more for medicare coverage, all while giving millionaires a $265,000
/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan -- it's going to be much harder for him to do that. he wrote the ryan plan. >> right. >> he can't run away from the plan that bears his name, the plan that bears his name that would...
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congressman ryan or mr. ryan or -- >> didn't they rule out congressman ryan for the moderator? >> yeah. >> requested that the moderator refer to him as mr. -- >> for the moderator. >> the moderator. >> doesn't play by the same rule that martha -- >> and you spent a lot of time discussing what you're going to call the other person, what that conveys. i sort of wondered if did they really come up with joe you're going to go out and refer to him as my friend? i don't think so. i think this was an example of him lapsing back into sort of obscenities as you said, what he's comfortable doing, been in the senate for a long time, the right honorable gentleman, my friend, my colleague and you fall into what you're comfortable doing. >> better senate-east than ill ease. >> that's true. >> that's why they do in the senate. >> you would rather refer to him as congressman ryan and remind everybody he's been part of the congress with the lowest approval numbers. >> that's the whole purpose. >> last point here. paul ryan for -- from, you know, outside assessment, was not seemingly that nervou
congressman ryan or mr. ryan or -- >> didn't they rule out congressman ryan for the moderator? >> yeah. >> requested that the moderator refer to him as mr. -- >> for the moderator. >> the moderator. >> doesn't play by the same rule that martha -- >> and you spent a lot of time discussing what you're going to call the other person, what that conveys. i sort of wondered if did they really come up with joe you're going to go out and refer to him as my...
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debate, both ryan and joe biden won in terms of politics. the question at this point is how do the guys aet the top of the ticket, how do they capitalize on that? >> how do they move forward? >> mitt romney has to do what he did last week again or ten days ago. he needs to do that again. if you watched mitt romney he wasn't a good debater at all. i don't think he was in '07 or '08 or '11. but, boy, this year he's turned into a terrific debater. i think president obama has the greatest challenge. he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is now lead big two points there among likely voters. the romney camp pushing i
debate, both ryan and joe biden won in terms of politics. the question at this point is how do the guys aet the top of the ticket, how do they capitalize on that? >> how do they move forward? >> mitt romney has to do what he did last week again or ten days ago. he needs to do that again. if you watched mitt romney he wasn't a good debater at all. i don't think he was in '07 or '08 or '11. but, boy, this year he's turned into a terrific debater. i think president obama has the...